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jeanb
#1 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 2:53:59 PM Quote
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I am absolutely furious that this service, which is used by so many of us is to be stopped because one or two have abused it. Surely, this is not the answer. Why do we ALL have to suffer when the majority of members use the system responsibly?

With regard to "risque" threads - if we had a proper moderating system, as requested by many some months ago, this would not arise as threads would be moderated out immediately.

dorat
#2 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 2:57:02 PM Quote
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I agree totally with what Jean says.
I have had no problem with private messaging and consider myself sensible enough to cope with it if I do.
So why do the majority once again have to suffer for the minority?

I would like to know which threads NRAS consider to be inappropriate.
How can we put something right if we don't know what we are doing wrong?

Doreen
jeanb
#3 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 3:58:58 PM Quote
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I would also like to know where our personal messages have gone? Have they been wiped out,or are they being studied by someone somewhere?
Lylie
#4 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 4:14:59 PM Quote
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UM, excuse me, but

when did we know they were to be removed/stopped?

No-one had the manners to tell me /warn me they would be being withdrawn. This will cause me to stop using this forum, I'm afraid, there's no proper moderating and our messages are removed/withdrawn without warning or explanation. I no longer come on here regularly, but, when I do, I expect to find "stuff" I thought belonged to me to still be where I left it. Like some others who do behave, I was in the process of offering PRIVATE support to someone, so now what?? Yes. my email address is useable, but I keep it private......and disclose it to others......... because I want to. I don't neccesarily want my private life invaded by NRAS stuff, that's what I hoped the forum was for.

I am REALLY annoyed to be "tarred with the naughty brush", simply because SOMEONE has, apparently, mindlessly and spitefully used the PM option to upset someone However, this is an issue between the two correspondents, and has NOTHING to do with me and many others

so

WHERE are my PRIVATE messages, NRAS??????


Oh. just checked.......and there 's your message, no prior warning, just all pm's removed, what a bloody cheek

NRAS. there are some on here who ARE old enough to behave responsibly, and it seems we are to be scapegoats for the minority who don't. Shall not be renewing my membership if this high handed attitude continues.

We can't even reply on the official thread so will our protests be seen here, and answered??? Silly question, big brother is certainly watching us.

Lylie
ps have just read Eleanor's post...............totally agree!!!!!
Always be aware that what you do might hurt others........and if it could, do nothing without careful consideration of the consequences
merryberry
#5 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 4:15:41 PM Quote
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blimey i didn't even notice it had gone, was this announced? and damn, i am pretty i had been some details in mine i was preparing to use.
deffo far too harsh a response. kind of a nuclear response!
i did just spot a moderate topic in my top bar just now, clicked it and was told to go away by the next screen. its not there now. maybe something else is in prep too.
merryberry
#6 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 4:17:02 PM Quote
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and in that single that i know of case of misuse, i believe the complainer accepted an apology from the offender. BY PRIVATE MESSAGE
merryberry
#7 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 4:22:41 PM Quote
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ok now i see the msg from HQ. still, why? never heard the like. except in school systems.

oooh yes I feel like the whole class has been given detention for someone else psuhgin teacher over a boundary she didn't know she had.
so:
i'm going off behind the bike sheds to grumble now.
sulks.
kicks door on way out.
thinks teen is possibly too grown up.
throws self on floor and wails, 'mine mine mine'.
prioryc
#8 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 4:22:58 PM Quote
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NRAS:

I am almost at a loss for words, BUT NOT QUITE! This is an adult forum, on the whole, for those who share a common interest. It has been a blessing to me, especially in the past, because I felt so alone with all my concerns. Sensible, caring people responded to each others questions and linked in with each other in that way. As could be expected, individuals wanted to meet up or have other kinds of contact and used the public forum to exchange details. This was risky. The new forum , in my opinion, has not met the high spec of the old in that it no longer feels so friendly and is more time consuming in looking around. However, it did offer the PM service which alleviated the public aspect of exchanging personal details. I would expect that most of those who use it do so responsibly and if they do not, can be easily identified and advised of this. Repeated offenders could have their membership withdrawn. So I am sad that it appears as if we are all being treated as if we are all irresponsible, by the service being withdrawn. This reminds me of school frankly!

It also seems that there is a problem with offensive posting. I have found some posts very offensive eg the chap advocating the use of illegal substances. Recently, I have not spotted anything, in my opinion, that offended me as much as that did. Yet, on refection, I decided at the time that the job of NRAS was not to police the site, just to make it available for those members who use it. We can monitor ourselves by ignoring/not reading any post which is offensive. That is what we do in our day-to - day life. We choose.

We all understood when the above mentioned thread was eventually removed as the reasons why were made clear. Can we be informed of the reasons why other threads are considered offensive and if/why they are to be removed? Also can we be updated as to where we can access the personal messages contained in our PM facility prior to the removal?

I anticipate an early response to this,

Eleanor urquhart

tina-M
#9 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 4:31:55 PM Quote
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Gosh i didnt even noticed it gone till you said, i think it is a shame to get rid of it, maybe they should just think of a way where u can refuse from some one if you dont want the email.
merryberry
#10 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 4:38:11 PM Quote
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and have lighthearted threads been removed? which ones? what lessons can we learn from this? moderation action should be better explained.

don't tend to read the fun threads. i did report one once, mind. it wasn't light hearted though, it was explicitly racist. did it go? I wasn't told so, and therefore assumed it was still there. Surely I would have been told it it had? <Goes and looks>. No it's still there and STILL racist.

getting a bit tired of putting up with this guff just to have access an RA community.
BarbieGirl
#11 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 4:48:42 PM Quote
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I must be well thick!!! I knew nothing about it, just that my ksgs had gone!! What a b****y cheek!!!! I had some msgs on there from people I wanted to keep, to refer back to, and now they have been taken away, so thank you NRAS. Are we being treated like five year olds who need punishing, shall I go and sit on the naughty step?? Thank you Amanda and melly, franky etc who helped me via pm, its a shame it wont happen again!!! We dont all want to publlsh our e mail addresses and rely on this service. Do NRAS care? obviously not
BARBARA
dorat
#12 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 4:57:55 PM Quote
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I also had some messages with information that I was keeping, or so I thought, they have now been stolen.

As far as I'm concerned this is the last straw.

I and others had some posts removed recently without being told, ( there was nothing wrong with the advice we had given) all because the person who had started the thread had decided she didn't want it on the forum anymore.

I think I'll look for a more adult forum.

Doreen xx
MaryLewis
#13 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 5:59:31 PM Quote
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when I first came on here the help I got was great
now NRAS is treating every-one as naughty children
ok if some-one wrote a nasty pm NRAS would know who it is and only that person should have there membership pulled (and shame on that person to upset another)
I have said before about how let down I feel with NRAS but thought I would let them have another chance
will admit I made a mistake by the second chance
why are you treating ALL of us as bad nasty people stop treating us like school children
WE ARE ALL ADULTS
very let down Mary L
RedDog
#14 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 6:45:47 PM Quote
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Well, I think the PM facility should be reinstated immediately. It was probably one of the best things about the new site! Blink
A friend is someone who knows all about you but loves you anyway!
amanda_lewin
#15 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 6:46:24 PM Quote
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What is going on here???

I just don't understand, my brain is all foggy anyway and I have Mark away AGAIN.............

Also had some ongoing private messages with a few people....

A
amanda_lewin
#16 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 6:48:15 PM Quote
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PS; Do you suppose the 'light hearted threads' reference is the girls night out thread?????????????????????????????
Blue Star
#17 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 6:51:58 PM Quote
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I agree why have the pm's gone ?
dorat
#18 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 6:54:38 PM Quote
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amanda_lewin wrote:
PS; Do you suppose the 'light hearted threads' reference is the girls night out thread?????????????????????????????


How would we know Amanda if they don't tell us?
We can't put things right if we don't know what has gone wrong.

Doreen xx
joeyvt
#19 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 7:12:55 PM Quote
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I agree with the other posters here too.

I believe this forum is a society of individuals who are able to make reasonable decisions and are respectful of each other. Freedom of speech is never a bad thing and should be upheld in so far as it is not discriminatory or breaks any laws. Any "virtual" society is going to experience difficulties that arise through the limited communication opportunities that the written word offers. Also, by virtue of the very nature of this forum, many contributors on any given day are going to be in considerable pain, some suffering from depression and anxiety, others dealing with any combination of the symtoms of this disease. I'm sure as adults, we are capable of accepting and understanding each other's failings and "policing" ourselves without having the vital service that personal messaging offers, withdrawn.

Joanna
jeanb
#20 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 7:16:03 PM Quote
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The "Girls Night Out" seems to be safe for now - but who knows?! I've bumped it up

Would have pm'd you Stewart - but I forgot I can't any more!
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